Historical Battles Series -- La Rothiere

[[N]Isaac_Brock]

Last month I made a private N communications post, suggesting a historical battle series, and received much encouragement.

So here I am posting publicly on it, and seeking assistance in making it a reality.

I'm proposing that in honour of the greatest battles of the Napoleonic era that we pay homage by replaying specific battles on, or fairly close to, the anniversary date of said encounter.

The first battle in this series that I am proposing is the battle of La Rothiere, between Napoleon and Blucher's Austrian, Russia and minors on Feb. 1, 1814. The anniversary date fast approaches, and I feel this is a historically significant and, I feel, would be an interesting battle to recreate.

I am proposing that we gather and replay the battle on either February 1 or, if combatants are unable to do so, on Feb. 3 or Feb. 4.

Situation: Hemmed in against the Aube River, with only one line of retreat over the bridge at Lesmont, Emperor Napoleon Bonaparte attempted to extricate most of his army of 45,000 soldiers in the face of 107,000+ troops of the Russian, Austrian, Bavarian and Wurttemburg forces commanded by Gen. Gebhard von Blucher.
Napoleon claimed he never wanted to fight this engagement but Blucher had other ideas. He pressed the retreating French and forced them to take the field. The result was a holding action and while Napoleon did succeed in fending off his attackers, he was forced to retreat under the cover of darkness. It's a historically significant battle because it marks the first time Napoleon was defeated on French soil.

Suggested scenario: The bridge at Lesmont is far to the rear, so it is not a viable objective. Therefore, the town of Brienne le Chateau represents the key objective in the battle. If this location is taken by the Coalition, and held until completion of the battle, the result is a strategic victory for the Allies -- historically, it would have meant that French forces would be cut off and trapped on the east side of the Aube, a major disaster for the French which could have meant a swift end to Napoleon's regime. A tactical victory is gained on taking, and holding, all objectives except for Brienne Le Chateau.
To achieve a tactical victory, the French must hold Brienne le Chateau and one other objective: Dienville, Vieux Brienne, Chaumesnil, Petit Mesnil or La Rothiere itself. A strategic victory for the French is achieved by holding these objectives: Petit Mesnil, La Rothiere, Dienville, Vieux Brienne and Brienne le Chateau.


Suggested time limit: One Hour

Estimated Prussian Forces: 110,000

Estimated French Forces: 45,000

Casualties: Estimated at about 6,000 each, although considering the significantly smaller size of the French forces, these were unacceptable casualties.

This could be a very interesting battle because of both the situation, and forces, involved. It is essentially a defensive battle for the French and it is not at all implausible that they could achieve a tactical, or strategic, victory in this situation.

Force composition
While not historically exact (French forces represented about 40% of those deployed by the Allies) in this scenario, it will be modified to represent 50% of the forces. That means in a battle, the French can only take half of the available forces — meaning, in a 4v4, each French player may use 5,000 of the 10,000 total, while there is no restriction on the Coalition. They can use all 10,000. Or, conversely, it could be a 2v4 with full funds for everyone.

Available sides:
Coalition: Russian, Austria, Bavaria, Wurttembergers
French: No allies

As an aside, while the forces were commanded by Blucher (with Gneiseau as his chief of staff) there were no Prussian troops engaged -- it was mainly Russians and Austrians with a strong contingent of Bavarians and Wurttemburgers
While there are four sides to choose from, it would not be historically accurate to see two sides playing Bavaria and two playing Wurttemburg.
To reflect the number of troops present, one side must choose Russia and there must be one Austrian player. There can be two Russian and two Austrian players, but there cannot be more than one Wurttemberg and one Bavarian faction.

But...

I need some HELP! I'm going to go through current maps over the next few days to see if there's one that's closely approximate to La Rothiere. The closest one I've found (and it's a fairly close approximation, actually) is France 4 -- we could even set victory conditions for this map specifically if a better one can't be found.

Any help from map-makers and otherwise, that would be appreciated!

[[N]Von Clausewitz]

Great idea Isaac.

My comments,

Please talk to fullin and let him mke a map for it. Said map can be included in the next lordz release as la rothiere. So please draw an approximate map, give it to fullin and have him do the map prior to that.

Please talk to cyn, get an approximate OOB of the parties involved. We can simulate less troops, but did the french hve more elite troops? what quality were they? From the oob we could take a specific set up for each side.

I suggest the battle is played as 4 vs 2. The time limit would be an hour. Coalition: 1 player Russia, 1 Austria, 1 Bavaria, 1 Wuttenmburg. France: 2 French

1 major and 1 minor faction of the coalition will start the battle immidiately, 15 min later the second major can move, 15 min later (so 30 min from start) the second minor can move.

So we have to research this a little more in depth to make the battle fun.

Get to work guys, excellent idea isaac.

VC

[[N]Isaac_Brock]

Thanks for the feedback/comments, VC.

I've done a bit of the legwork -- but obviously more needs to be done. I found a map which is fairly good, and going to this link: http://napoleonistyka.atspace.com/La_Ro ... e.htm#_map

As for OOB, I found an excellent website that has all of that detail, down to the units. I've posted the complete OOB below.

FRENCH ORDER OF BATTLE

VI Army Corps
MdE Auguste-Frédéric-Louis
Viesse de Marmont
Duc de Raguse
Infantry Division (4,868 men)
GdD Joseph-Louis Lagrange

Brigade - GdB August Fournier
1st Marine Infantry [2 btns.]
2nd Marine Infantry [4 btns.]
3th Marine Infantry [3 btns.]
4th Marine Infantry [3 btns.]
23th Light Infantry [1 btn.]
Light Infantry [1 btn.]

Brigade - GdB Joubert
1st Line Infantry [1 btn.]
15th Line Infantry [1 btn.]
16th Line Infantry [1 btn.]
62nd Line Infantry [2 btns.]
70th Line Infantry [2 btns.]
121st Line Infantry [1 btn.]

Cavalry Division (1,900 men)
GdD Jean-Pierre Doumerc
Brigade -
1st Provisional Hussars [4 sq.]
Brigade -
2nd Horse Chasseurs [2 sq.]
3th Horse Chasseurs [2 sq.]
4th Horse Chasseurs [2 sq.]
Artillery
HB [4 6pdr cannons, 2 howitzers]
HB [4 6pdr cannons, 2 howitzers]


II Army Corps
MdE Claude Victor-Perrin Victor
Duc de Belluno
Infantry Division (2,723 men)
GdD Philippe Guillaume Duhesme

Brigade -
24th Light Infantry [1 btn.]
19th Line Infantry [1 btn.]
37th Line Infantry [1 btn.]
56th Line Infantry [1 btn.]

Infantry Division (3,347 men)
- GdD Thomas le Forestier
Brigade
26th Light Infantry [1 btn.]
18th Line Infantry [2 btns.]
46th Line Infantry [2 btns.]
- 93th Line Infantry [1 btn.]

Army Corps
GdD Etienne-Maurice Gerard

Infantry Division (4,291 men)
- GdD Guillaume-Henri Dufour
Brigade -
12th Light Infantry [1 btn.]
29th Light Infantry [1 btn.]
32th Line Infantry [1 btn.]
56th Line Infantry [1 btn.]

Brigade -
5th Light Infantry [1 btn.]
15th Light Infantry [1 btn.]
26th Line Infantry [1 btn.]
122th Line Infantry [1 btn.]
135th Line Infantry [1 btn.]
142th Line Infantry [1 btn.]
155th Line Infantry [1 btn.]

Infantry Division (2,917 men)
GdD Ricard
Brigade - GdB Jacques Boudin
2th Light Infantry [2 btns.]
4th Light Infantry [2 btns.]
6th Light Infantry [1 btn.]
9th Light Infantry [1 btn.]
16th Light Infantry [1 btn.]


Brigade - GdB Pierre Pelleport
22th Line Infantry [2 btns.]
40th Line Infantry [2 btns.]
50th Line Infantry [1 btn.]
69th Line Infantry [1 btn.]
136th Line Infantry [1 btn.]
138th Line Infantry [2 btns.]
142th Line Infantry [1 btn.]
144th Line Infantry [1 btn.]
145th Line Infantry [2 btns.]

Cavalry Brigade - GdB Picquet
10th Hussars [4 sq.]
??th Regiment [? sq.]

Cavalry Corps
GdD Edouard-Jean Milhaud

Cavalry Division (1,164 men)
- GdD Samuel-Francois l'Heritier
Brigade - GdB Auguste Lamotte
18th Dragoons [2 sq.]
19th Dragoons [3 sq.]
20th Dragoons [2 sq.]

Brigade - GdB M. J. Collaert
22th Dragoons [2 sq.]
25th Dragoons [2 sq.]

Cavalry Division (1,590 men)
GdD Andre-Louis-Elisabeth-Marie Briche
Brigade - GdB Gabriel Montelegier
2nd Dragoons [3 sq.]
6th Dragoons [2 sq.]

Brigade - GdB Denis-Eloi Ludot
11th Dragoons [2 sq.]
13th Dragoons [2 sq.]
15th Dragoons [2 sq.]

Cavalry Division (1,050 men)
GdD Hippolyte-Marie-Guillaume Pire
Brigade -
3th Hussars [4 sq.]
14th Horse Chasseurs [2 sq.]
26th Horse Chasseurs [2 sq.]
27th Horse Chasseurs [2 sq.]

Reserve Artillery
Horse Artillery:
HB [4 6pdr cannons, 2 howitzers]
HB [4 6pdr cannons, 2 howitzers]
HB [4 6pdr cannons, 2 howitzers]

Foot Artillery:
FB [6 6pdr cannons, 2 howitzers]
FB [6 6pdr cannons, 2 howitzers]
FB [6 6pdr cannons, 2 howitzers]
FB [6 6pdr cannons, 2 howitzers]

Young Guard Infantry Corps
MdE Michel Ney Duc D'Elchingen,
Prince De La Moskowa

1st (Young Guard) Voltigeur Division (4,133 men)
GdD Louis-Dominique de Meunier

Brigade - GdB Lacoste
1st Guard Voltigeurs [2 btns.]
2nd Guard Voltigeurs [2 btns.]

Brigade - GdB Rousseau
3th Guard Voltigeurs [2 btns.]
4th Guard Voltigeurs [2 btns.]

Artillery
FB of Young Guard [8 guns]
FB of Young Guard [8 guns]

2nd (Young Guard) Voltigeur Division (2,840 men)
GdD Pierre Decouz

Brigade - GdB Petit
5th Guard Voltigeurs [2 btns.]
6th Guard Voltigeurs [2 btns.]


Brigade - GdB Bizarre
7th Guard Voltigeurs [2 btns.]
8th Guard Voltigeurs [2 btns.]

Artillery
FB of Young Guard [8 guns]
FB of Young Guard [8 guns]

2nd (Young Guard) Tirailleurs Division (4,950 men)
- GdD Rothemburg

Brigade - GdB Marquet
5th Guard Tirailleurs [2 btns.]
6th Guard Tirailleurs [2 btns.]

Brigade - GdB Charriere[/b
]7th Guard Tirailleurs [2 btns.]
8th Guard Tirailleurs [2 btns.]

Artillery
FB of Young Guard [8 guns]
FB of Young Guard [8 guns]

[b]Young Guard Cavalry Corps
1st (Young Guard) Cavalry Division (2,228 men)

GdD Louis-Marie Levesque-Laferriere
Brigade -
Guard Horse Grenadiers [2 sq.*]
Guard Horse Chasseurs [4 sq.*]
Guard Dragoons [2 sq.*]

2nd (Young Guard) Cavalry Division (1,200 men)

GdD Jean-Marie Defrance

Brigade -
1st Honor Guards [4 sq.]
2nd Honor Guards [2 sq.]
3th Honor Guards [2 sq.]
4th Honor Guards [2 sq.]


Old Guard Cavalry Corps
GdD Etienne-Marie-Antoine

1st (Old Guard) Cavalry Division (1,100 men)
GdD Pierre-David Colbert de Chabanais
Brigade - GdD Vincent Krasinski
1st Polish Guard Lancers [8 sq.*]
2nd Guard Eclaireurs [4 sq.]

Artillery -
HB of Old Guard [6 guns]
2nd (Old Guard) Cavalry Division (2,585 men)
- GdD Claude-Etienne Guyot
Brigade - GdD Guyot
Guard Horse Grenadiers [4 sq.*]

Brigade - GdD Lefebvre-Desnouettes
Guard Horse Chasseurs [4 sq.*]
Brigade - GdD Ornano
Guard Dragoons [4 sq.*]
Artillery -
HB of Old Guard [6 guns]

COALITION ORDER OF BATTLE
Blucher's 45,000 Russians, 25,000 Austrians,
15,000 Bavarians and 12,000 Wurttembergers formed two armies and reserves.

Army of Silesia" - part
Commander-in-Chief of Army of Silesia: GL Gebhard-Leberecht Blucher
Chief-of-Staff: GM August-Wilhelm-Anton von Gneissenau
Russian VI Infantry Corps (Prince Scherbatov) - 12,000 men
Russian IX Infantry Corps (Olsufiev-III) - 6,000 men


"Army of Bohemia" - part
Commander-in-Chief of Army of Bohemia: FM Karl-Phillip, Furst zu Schwarzenburg
Chief-of-Staff: FL Johann-Josef-Wenzel-Anton-Franz-Karl Graf Radetzky
Austrian III Army Corps (Giulay) - 14,200 men
Wurttemberg IV Corps (Crown Prince) - 12,000 men
Austro-Bavarian Corps (Frimont and Wrede) - 26,500 men
Russian Cavalry Corps (Vasilchikov) - 3,000 men


"Reserves" - part
Commander: General de Tolly
Russian III Infantry 'Grenadiers' Corps (Raievski) - 6,000 men
Russian V Infantry 'Foot Guards' Corps (Yermolov) - 12,000 men
Russian Cuirassiers and Horse Guards Corps (Prince Golitzin-V) - 3,000 men


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RUSSIAN FORCES

VI Infantry Corps
GL Prince Alexei Scherbatov

7th Infantry Division
GM Talyzin

Brigade:
Moscow Infantry [2 btns.]
Pskov Infantry [2 btns.]

Brigade: GM Augustov
Sophia Infantry [2 btns.]
Libava Infantry [2 btns.]

Brigade: Plk. Diedrich
11th Jägers [2 btns.]
36th Jägers [2 btns.]

Artillery:
PB [12 guns]
LB [12 guns]

18th Infantry Division
GM Bernadosov
Brigade: GM Blagoveshchenski
Vladimir Infantry [2 btns.]
Dniepr Infantry [2 btns.]

Brigade:
Tambov Infantry [2 btns.]
Kostroma Infantry [2 btns.]

Brigade: GM Mecherinov
28th Jägers [2 btns.]
32nd Jägers [2 btns.]

Artillery:
LB [12 guns]


IX Infantry Corps
GL Zahar Olsufiev-III

9th Infantry Division
GM Evstafii Udom-II

Brigade: GM Yushkov
Ufa Infantry [1 btn.]
Riazan Infantry [1 btn.]

Brigade: GM Poltoratzki
Apsheron Infantry [1 btn.]
Nasheburg Infantry [1 btn.]

Brigade: GM Melnikov[/b
]10th Jägers [1 btn.]
38th Jägers [1 btn.]

Artillery:
PB [12 guns]
LB [12 guns]

[b]15th Infantry Division
GL Karnielov

Brigade: GM ??
Vitebsk Infantry [1 btn.]
Kozlov Infantry [1 btn.]

Brigade: Gm Pushkin Kolivan Infantry [1 btn.]
Chorin Infantry [1 btn.]

Artillery: [/b
]LB [12 guns]


[b]Cavalry Corps
GL Illarion Vasilchikov

[b]3rd Dragoon Division
GM Semen Panchulitzev-I [/b]

Brigade: GM Ushakov
Kurland Dragoons [3 sq.]
Smolensk Dragoons [3 sq.]
Brigade: GM Umanez
Kinbourn Dragoons [3 sq.]
Tver Dragoons [3 sq.]

Artillery:
HB [10 guns]

2nd Hussar Division
GL Sergei Lanskoi
Brigade: GM Prince Vadbolski
Ahtirka Hussars [? sq.]
Marioumpol Hussars [? sq.]

Brigade: GM Kozlovski-II
White Russia Hussars [? sq.]
Alexandria Hussars [? sq.]

RESERVES

III Infantry 'Grenadiers' Corps
GL Nikolai Nikolaievich Raievski

1st Grenadier Division
GL Pavel Choglokov

Brigade: GM Kniazhnin-II
Yekaterinoslav Grenadiers [1 btn.]
Graf Arakcheyev's Grenadiers [1 btn.]

Brigade: GM Nikolai Sulima
Taurida Grenadiers [1 btn.]
St. Petersburg Grenadiers [1 btn.]

Brigade: GM ??
Pernau Grenadiers [1 btn.]
Kexholm Grenadiers [1 btn.]

2nd Grenadier Division
GL Ivan Paskevich

Brigade: GM Pisarev
Moscow Grenadiers [1 btn.]
Kiev Grenadiers [1 btn.]

Brigade: GM Baron de Damas
Fanagoria Grenadiers [1 btn.]
Astrakhan Grenadiers [1 btn.]

Brigade: GM Posnikov
Little Russia Grenadiers [1 btn.]
Siberia Grenadiers [1 btn.]

Reserve Artillery:
PB [12 guns]
LB [12 guns]
LB [12 guns]

V Infantry 'Foot Guards' Corps
GL Alexei Yermolov

1st Guard Infantry Division
GM Baron Rosen-II
1st Brigade 'Old Guard' - GM Potemkin
Preobrazhensk Lifeguard Infantry [3 btns.]
Semenovsk Lifeguard Infantry [3 btns.]
2nd Brigade 'Old Guard' - GM Hrapovitzki
Izmailov Lifeguard Infantry [3 btns.]
Lifeguard Jagers [3 btns.]
Lifeguard Marines [1/2 btn.]

2nd Guard Infantry Division
GM Ivan Udom-I

Brigade: GM Rihter-II
Lithuanian Lifeguard Infantry [3 btns.]
Finland Lifeguard Infantry [3 btns.]

Brigade 'Young Guard'
His Majesty Lifeguard Grenadiers [3 btns.]
Pavlovsk Lifeguard Grenadiers [3 btns.]

Reserve Artillery:
Lifeguard PB [12 guns]
Lifeguard LB [12 guns]
Lifeguard LB [12 guns]

Cuirassiers and Guard Cavalry Corps (- part)
GL Prince Golitzin-V

1st 'Guard' Cuirassier Division
GL Nikolai Depreradovich

Brigade: GM Arseniev-I
Guard Cavalry/Chevaliers [6 sq.]
Lifeguard Horse/Garde du Corps [6 sq.]

Brigade: GM Baron Rosen-III
His Majesty Lifeguard Cuirassiers [4 sq.]
Her Majesty Cuirassiers [4 sq.]

Artillery:
Lifeguard HB [12 guns]

2nd Cuirassier Division
GL Nikolai Kretov

Brigade: GM Gustav von Stahl
Yekaterinoslav Cuirassiers [4 sq.]
Astrakhan Cuirassiers [4 sq.]

Brigade: GM Ivan Leontiev
Gloukhov Cuirassiers [5 sq.]
Pskov* Cuirassiers [5 sq.]

Artillery:
HB [12 guns]

AUSTRIANS, BAVARIANS AND WURTTEMBURGERS

(Austrian) III Army Corps
FzM Ignatz Giulay von
Maros-Nemeth und Nadaska

1st (Advance Guard) Division - detached.
2nd (Infantry) Division
FL Prinz Hohenlohe-Bartenstein

Brigade - SplenyiMariassy Infantry # 37 [2 btns.]
Ignaz Giulay Infantry # 60 [2 btns.]
BB [6 guns]

Brigade - Grimmer
ollowrath Infantry # 36 [4 btns.]
Frohlich Infantry # 28 [3 btns.]
BB [7 guns]


3rd (Infantry) Division
FL Graf von Fresnel

Brigade - Pfluger
Archduke Ludvig Infantry # 8 [3 btns.]
Wurzburg Infantry # 23 [4 btns.]
BB [8 guns]

Brigade - Chollich
Kaiser's Own Infantry # 1 [3 btns.]
Kottulinski Infantry # 41 [3 btns.]
BB [8 guns]

Reserve Artillery:
PB [6 guns]
PB [6 guns]
BB [6 guns]

(Wurttemberg) IV Army Corps
Crown Prince

Advance Guard Division
- Stockmeyer
Stockmeyer Light Infantry [2 btns.]
King's Line Infantry [2 btns.]
Neubronn Line Infantry [2 btns.]
Battery [2 light guns, 7 howitzers]
Landwehr [1 btn.]
Attached: (Austrian) Ferdinand Hussars

1st Infantry Division
- Koch

Brigade - Doring
Herzhog Wilhelm Infantry [2 btns.]
Von Pfuhl Infantry [2 btns.]

Brigade - Hohenloe
Frannquemont Infantry [2 btns.]
Kronprinz Infantry [2 btns.]
Artillery
FB [6 guns]

Cavalry Division
- Prince Adam
Brigade - Walsleben
Kronprinz Dragoons [4 sq.]
Herzog Loui' Chevaulegeres [4 sq.]
HB [6 guns]

Brigade - Jett
Prince Adam's Chevaulegeres [4 sq.]
??? Chevaulegeres [4 sq.]
HB [6 guns]

(Austro-Bavarian) Army Corps
FML Johann Frimont
and
Karl Philipp, prince von Wrede


Austrians:
1st (Advance Guard) Division
FL Johann Anton Graf zu Hardegg

Brigade - Mengen
III Jager Btn. [1 btn.]
Schwarzenberg Uhlans [6 sq.]
BB [8 guns]

Brigade - Geramb
Szekler Grenz [2 btns.]
Archduke Joseph Hussars [6 sq.]


2nd (Advance Guard) Division
FL Splenyi von Mihaldy[/b

]Brigade - Volkmannn
Archduke Rudolph Infantry # 14 [4 btns.]
Jordis Infantry # 59 [4 btns.]
BB [8 guns]

[b]Brigade - Minutilly
Szekler Hussars [6 sq.]
Knesevich Dragoons [6 sq.]
HB [6 guns]

Reserve Artillery:
PB [6 guns]
PB [6 guns]
PB [6 guns]

Bavarians:
1st Infantry Division

- Rechberg
Brigade - Bayern
1st Chevaulegeres [4 sq.]
2nd Chevaulegeres [4 sq.]
7th Chevaulegeres [6 sq.]

Brigade - Prinz Karl
III Light Infantry Btn. [1 btn.]
Prinz Karl Infantry [1 btn.]
X Augsburg National Btn. [1 btn.]

Brigade - Maillot
II Light Infantry Btn. [1 btn.]
2nd Infantry [1 btn.]
10th Infantry [1 btn.]
XI Ingolstadt National Btn. [1 btn.]
XV Baireuth National Btn. [1 btn.]

Artillery
FB [8 guns]
HB [6 guns]

2nd Infantry Division -

Beckers
Brigade - Elbracht
3rd Chevaulegeres [4 sq.]
6th Chevaulegeres [4 sq.]

Brigade - Pappemheim
V Light Infantry Btn. [1 btn.]
4th Infantry [2 btns.]
IV Salzburg National Btn. [1 btn.]
IX Regensbourg National Btn. [1 btn.]

Brigade - Zollern
I Light Infantry Btn. [1 btn.]
6th Infantry [2 btns.]
XIII Innsbruck National Btn. [1 btn.]
XIV Anspach National Btn. [1 btn.]

Artillery
FB [8 guns]
HB [6 guns]

3rd Infantry Division -
La Motte

Brigade - Dietz
4th Chevaulegeres [4 sq.]
5th Chevaulegeres [4 sq.]

Brigade - Habermann
7th Infantry [2 btns.]
11th Infantry [2 btns.]
Lower Donau Legion [1 btn.]
Iller-Kreise Legion [1 btn.]

Brigade - Deroi
5th Infantry [2 btns.]
8th Infantry [1 btn.]
9th Infantry [1 btn.]
V Munchen National Btn. [1 btn.]
VI Lindau National Btn. [1 btn.]

Artillery
FB [8 guns]
HB [6 guns]

Reserve Artillery:
FB [6 guns]
FB [6 guns]
FB [6 guns]
FB [6 guns]

[[N]Von Clausewitz]

Good, what we should do is get the % of cav/line and art from the oob and use it in our selection for example 40% inf 30% cav and 30% art

Then in each branch we can get the % of elite/line/guard and make our oob this way. Our total units for the french will be 40 and coalition 80 , we can use these percentages to determine what armies are bought.

VC

[[N]Fullin]

I can do the map...Lord Desaix will oppose the name....fairly enough...

[[N]Isaac_Brock]

The force ratio for the French is fairly easy to figure out because the OOB gives us the unit-by-unit breakdown of engaged forces.
Infantry formed about 30,000 men, or 65% of the total engaged force. Of that number, almost half (11,923 or 45%) were Young Guard, or elite, elements to the army.
Cavalry constituted about 12,800, or 30% of the total engaged force — of that total, 7,100 , or 60%, were elite cavalry composed of either Young Guard or Old Guard elements (Old Guard cavalry alone was 3,685).

With the Coalition, it's not as precise because there's no force ratio break down -- merely a vague OOB description of total forces with imprecise large unit totals. If we take the ratios as listed, we find that almost 89,000 infantry were engaged, or 90% of the force engaged. Of those infantry units, 18,000 were grenadiers or foot guards, which can be considered elite. That makes up 20% of the engaged infantry.
Cavalry force, according to the included list, is about 6,000, half of which are Cuirassier or Horse Guards, which we can consider elites. I find this number exceedingly low and therefore I'm going to look into the battle a bit more and see if I can find a more complete OOB for the Coalition.

And Fullin, why would Desisaix oppose the name? Just curious

[oOIYvYIOo]

Nice deep work ,was this the initial steps for the historical battles ?

[[N]Clinch]

wow YOYO, digging up and dusting off some old posts eh? The historical battles are made by Legio Desaix. We had no involvement in that part of the mod.

[oOIYvYIOo]

So what was the goal of this post ?

For [N] members to recriate it ?

[[N]BlueMax]

Well, Its weird that I didn't see this post earlier; since I'm making this map.